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Lead: Consumer visa not blocked by travel, travel agents said the tour has to buy a ticket booking hotel can not be refunded. Consumer complaints, travel agencies promised to solve,http://stopthemoney.blog.shinobi.jp, but the tour is still missing. 315 continue to follow every day: gratuitous tickets hotel bears consumption.
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Hong Beijing Feb. 14 news, according to Voice of the economy, "every day, 315" reported two weeks ago, reporters have reported Ng through travel agencies in Guangzhou outbound travel and visa procedures, due to the visa did not pass and did not take place, But the travel agency was not refundable fares. "" "Consumers did not pass the travel visa travel agents said the tour has been hindered by refusing back
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Consumers something to say: After the scandal still refused to refund fares
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In mid-December 2011, consumers in Guangzhou in Guangdong Nanhu International Travel Ng enrolled in January 2, 2012 Great Barrier Reef in Australia eight days off to travel tours, ready to take 70-year-old mother to travel, fares 13,999 per person Yuan. Pay the fare and passports, etc. After three days, South Lake CITS told: visa has been run down,http://galleri.kjerringoy.no/displayimage.php?album=155&pos=46, need and then pay 50,000 yuan per person deposit. However, on December 31, South Lake CITS told: Ng visa not run down, you can not go, only one person's visa Ng mother passed, only one person Offered elderly. South Lake CITS Ng deposit refunded $ 50,000, but refused to refund fares, and declared that even back tour, only refund $ 2,000, because the tour has spent 13,999 yuan spent on the visa, book flights and hotels, the cost and say that this part has been produced, the costs are not produced only two thousand dollars.
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Ng: Lake in the scandal within about two days to put the deposit returned, my mother margin thirty thousand dollars has been returned to the tour prices it has not been back, but then I found that there are some other South Lake CITS People also because Australian visa had encountered such a situation not similar, I think this thing very absurd, if I personally, South Lake CITS may be a case in the middle of the Australian tour, but now it seems there are still many consumers will encounter Likewise a similar situation,Louboutin Talon Compensé, this thing feels like a fraud, like a chain.
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After January 31, 315 every day on this program were reported in the afternoon, South Lake CITS promotion department concerned to set our program called, promises to solve the problem for consumers. But Mr Ng said that so far he has not received any statement.
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Ng: They refused visas book to me, but just a copy, not the original. This fee is not predominant among only a few hundred dollars, 700,800 dollars,Louboutin Soirée, more than ten thousand dollars that did not retreat. I travel without success, he won the profits, no less his entire profit of a penny, he also increased the traffic, and more importantly, you deceive consumers, to tell you by, and you prepare it, and finally I put a lot of things pushed over, after you told me not booked, consumers do not you play? This is an extremely irresponsible behavior, like a responsible business should be doing things.
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Merchant something to say: prevarication, said process will take time
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The problem for Mr Ng, South Lake CITS had promised to solve, but why it has yet to result? Reporter yesterday contacted again Nanhu International Travel. Results dialed multiple phones, after another round of long waits, South Lake CITS Quality Supervision someone finally answered a reporter's phone.
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Merchant: We also are dealing follow them, but there is some evidence that it takes time to deal with, specifically address the situation, I still want to ask our colleagues, our colleagues asked him to talk to the correlation process, if you can, give us the guest is finished processing , to give you a call to talk about the situation, can you?
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Reporter: Or you now tell me the phone, I called him directly.
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Merchant: Because our side colleagues are now opening a department meeting, I told him to return to the situation, he treated himself to follow up the situation more clearly, to the right, then to the time he will give you a call, you can do ?
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Reporter: Probably you will go to when?
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Experts have something to say: given sign a contract businesses deliberately concealing facts
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South Lake CITS, said Mr Ng was refused by the Ng themselves should bear responsibility, on the grounds that the contract has been labeled a consumer responsibility for visa, travel agents will be deducted from the costs incurred. Therefore Nanhu International Travel refuse refund. Contracts were marked "visa denied responsibility belongs to the consumer", the "responsibility" in the end should be how to understand? Professor Liu Deqian Beijing Institute of Tourism has given this comment.
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Qian: In accordance with the contract, said the responsibility should be said that consumers' responsibility, but the key to this process lies in the middle of a South Lake CITS travel agents tell tourists that the visa has been run down, after a run down the question arises, at the same time when the newspaper group and should tell him,http://markt.vaart.nl/cgi-bin/vaart/markt/classifieds.cgi, because he knew the time Australia or other countries ease visa and visa requirements, he should clearly tell visitors may sign visa is not down. "People's Republic of China" in the provisions of the Contract Law, the parties theorems of contracts, resulting in losses to the other party should be liable for damages, which the second point is deliberately concealing important facts relating to a given sign a contract.
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Here, the visa refusal is a consumer of responsibility, the responsibility to understand how we should be,http://www.kh.rim.or.jp/~goburin/cgi-bin/custombbs.cgi/, is unable to travel, liability, or can not refund the responsibility? Beijing Yue Cheng Law Firm Song Junyan has given this interpretation.
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Song Junyan: visa refusal, this is what causes it? The reason is because consumers can only be inferred to this, but it does not prove that all the consequences of refusal say caused, for example, there can not reclaim fare travel, the consequences should be borne by consumers, can not be understood this level.
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South Lake CITS, said the contract will be deducted from the cost of the travel agency has indicated already occurred. And Mr. Wu said that through South Lake CITS outbound handle the whole process, costs have occurred only a few hundred dollars of the visa fee, visa fee for his recognition and acceptance, but for South Lake CITS said the airfare and hotel costs, he could not accept, because he did not travel, not to fly,http://www.kazenoko-club.com/bbs/kazenoko-bbs.cgi, did not go to Australia, staying in a hotel. How to treat this problem?
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Voice of special economic commentator Bao Hua: I think the explanation is very farfetched travel agent, because he told me when he signed must be booked hotels and flights, that I do not have any identity information, and even he does not Who knew I was under the circumstances, he has arranged a hotel or tickets, he booked the hotel, ticket money is not because I am a college newspaper, but he has to provide to the consumer a product. Only after I signed with him to fulfill the contract, he will know I was his client. In this case, the airline will talk to say, boarding, passengers who take advantage of that, guests who stay with the hotel to say that just such a process.
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Outbound travel market now resembles like South Lake CITS such problems continue to arise, the root of where?
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Bao Hua: I think it is information asymmetry, first, in terms of visa, as is the handling of foreign embassies, we do not belong to the scope of the jurisdiction of the Chinese government, generally through travel agents, so this point, information is not symmetrical.
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Lawyers something to say: the problem should be stated in the contract good
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Qian: Travel first agreement with the tickets,Louboutin Escarpins, room reservations, etc., and then apply the tourists after finishing all the formalities to be his concrete implementation of people,[url=http://vegalta7.s156.xrea.com/aska/aska.cgi/roysuryo&ahttp://vegalta7.s156.xrea.com/aska/aska.cgi/roysuryo&a</aska.cgi[/url], travel agencies have not yet implemented at the time put the applicants as travel agencies spend money out, this should not happen.
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Consumer Protection Law and the relevant provisions of the model contract in Guangdong Province has, model contracts outbound tourism in the middle of Guangdong Province, about the responsibility of the first paragraph of Article VI spoke of the travel agencies should be in line with the Party to provide the protection of personal shopping security needed services, as well as personal financial security crises Party items predictable and issues need attention, it shall first make a true statement and a warning to the Party, and to take the case to prevent harm occurring. Now he did not win a visa, you put him as one of your fixed tourists, and then you let him assume you book losses, which should not happen.
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Song Junyan: This case is not run down due to visa reasons can not lead consumers to travel, travel agents should be able to deduct expenses has actually occurred, this provision itself and the supreme law of judicial interpretation is not back, but the key to how we understand this the actual costs incurred, I think that the actual cost is based on previous cases, such as consumer visa, contract situation and must take place, but even after the occurrence because the hotel I booked, but dropped after the traveler booked hotel For some reason that I can not go, then this hotel is certainly not to say that I booked five days I have to pay the cost of five days,Louboutin Sandales, I can certainly say for example the hotel deducted day, my four days after the fee is returned to the, I think the actual costs incurred this understanding, the travel agency is wrong.
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Qian: due to visa did not run down, consumers can not travel, travel agents, tour subside, resulting in a loss to the consumer; however the travel agency said that if the fares back to the consumer, travel agencies will lose money, but money-losing his responsibility It should not be attributed to consumers. Whether before the tour booked, or we should have been implemented after the man set, the problems are to be solved by the travel agency.
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When consumers through travel agencies outbound travel formalities, sign the relevant legal provisions to what should pay attention to?
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Songjun Yan: I think when the contract should pay attention to some, as detailed as possible all the things that might happen to make a provision, such as visas,Louboutin Bottines, travel agencies should tell consumers what materials you will need to provide, if consumers follow Useful Information Travel agencies offer me all the materials are provided, in which case the visa should not come down, this is not a consumer responsibility. All the problems that may arise, as well as the consequences of these issues should be clearly stipulated that this time if there are problems you can make law, contract basis.
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